Kathleen has had a long, successful career as an actor. After 11 ½ years as Ellen Shepard on ALL MY CHILDREN, Kathleen garnered 2 Emmy nominations and an Emmy Award. She was also the leading role of Claudia Whittaker on the popular KNOTS LANDING for its last three seasons. After years of practical experience, and ongoing academic/technical training in the entertainment industry, Kathleen turned toward her Spiritual calling and earned a degree in Spiritual Psychology that prepared to accept new and greater challenges. She currently coaches others on Emotional Fitness and Spirituality.
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Alison : Here we are on an adventure.
Jean: We’re on an adventure with Kathleen Noone.
Alison : That’s right. This is one of our…. Well, I think you’ve known her the longest of all of us, right? Because you were… Were you? Was she in your foundations class at church?
Jean: No, no. But, uh, I did meet Kathleen at the church, and we became great friends. And we still are. I love her so much. She’s not only a friend, but a mentor and just a beautiful person inside and out.
Alison : And I met her through you. And, uh, she is so wonderful. And she is like a really great, well known actor. But it’s not like she’s stuck in that past incarnation of herself. Like when I met her, I was like, hey, you look so familiar. She’s like, yeah, I did some stuff on TV, like, do you know what I mean? Like, she was just so you know, I did All My Children. And then when, um, I had my birthday party and she was there, my friends were like, I can’t believe you sat me at Kathleen Noon’s table. Like they were so excited. You know, we have such good friends.
Jean: We do, we do. And and one of the things that’s so great about Kat is that she’s so grounded in her devotion and in her faith in the universal intelligence.
Alison : Well, let’s let’s give her a listen. Yeah, let’s listen to her.
Jean: Let’s?
Alison : Let’s let’s do it.
Kathleen : I’m so excited. This is so great, guys. It’s so great to see you both. And I love your haircut, allison, you got it. Cut.
Alison : You look beautiful.
Jean: You look stunning, Kathleen.
Kathleen : Uh, well, you know what you need to do. Write that down 100 times.
Alison : That’s true. I have so many of those things written. Kathleen looks beautiful.
Kathleen : Okay. You know, Jean did that once for me 100 times.
Jean: I took a card and I wrote… You are… What did I write? You are beautiful. A hundred times or something?
Alison : That’s so great. I love that. We’re so happy that you’re here talking to us on insidewink, Kat. You are like one of our dearest, bestest friends ever. And, um, we just wanted to talk a little bit, like, about your acting career and then where you are now.
Kathleen : No, no.
Alison : And we’re done.
Kathleen : Curtain.
Alison : That’s right. You, you played on All My Children.
Kathleen : Oh, God. Yes.
Alison : Ellen. Ellen, right?
Kathleen : Yes, I did that for 11.5 years.
Alison : And people still… I’ve been with you in public where people still come up to you and talk about it.
Kathleen : That amazes me. That just amazes me. I can hardly remember at this age. But no, I am thrilled. I had a gal the other day, Jen, who works for the Motion Picture Association. She kind of she runs it and, uh, she was passing me in front of the big five and she said, oh my God, Kathy. And I said, yes. Oh my goodness. And she said, I gotta tell you something. What is it? She said many years ago, and we’re talking about 20, 25 years ago she said, whenever I saw you always brought such light and calmed me down. She was just starting her career. And I go, isn’t it amazing how you touch people’s lives in our professions, which whatever they are, and there’s something beyond ourselves, small selves, that somehow permeates somebody in a way that they need…. That’s so extraordinary to me. And that’s happened a lot on All My Children. When I was doing these scenes with the wonderful and late Mark Lamura on drug addiction. And we went through a whole process of the rehabilitation and the confrontational scenes. And in all humility, they were some of the most strongest scenes I’ve ever done. But it was the gift. It gave me the gift of an Emmy Award. And that came and people would write in and say, oh my God, I was on the way to going to a, um, uh, pick up some more drugs on the street. And I always watch All My Children.
Alison : Wow.
Kathleen : And I saw that scene and it stopped me, and I went, wow.
Jean: Yeah.
Kathleen : Of the things that we if we give ourselves and we each get to be of service in a different way, and it was always important to me to be of service no matter what I did, you know, even in our crazy professions, Alison.
Alison : What attracted you to acting, do you think? Kat. Like what?
Kathleen : Survival… I had family.
Jean: Because I read that you wanted to be a singer? What did you..
Kathleen : That’s what I started out as. Doing singing. Um, But I’m talking where I was a kid. That’s how I started in choirs. And then I started doing musical comedies, that kind of thing, which were great fun. But what I discovered is that the musicals that I love so much didn’t give me the depth in acting that I wanted. I knew how to sell a song. I knew how to get out on stage and razzmatazz and bring the energy up. But I thought, what am I doing? What’s what’s behind all of this? So that’s when I applied. I was in I started graduate school and I applied to go to USM in Dallas, Texas, and um, I was accepted, but I had $50 to my name and, uh, I went down there on a wing in a prayer. A wing and a prayer, but also because this is the combination of me following my instincts. Something inside my heart was telling me to do this. As scared as I was, I kept putting one foot in front of the other. Went down there, um, was introduced to the head of the department. Mr. Hobgood was his name, he said, welcome, you’ll start your classes. I said, no, you don’t seem to understand. I don’t have any money to go to school. But I thank you for accepting me. He coughed and he sputtered a bit and he said, well, you know, when you save money you will have to then come back. I mean, the door will be open for you. I said, thank you very much. I stepped outside the department and I thought, now what do I do? Well, in my head, I’m supposed to be here. I went out and started to look for an apartment, which I couldn’t afford.
Alison : Wow.
Kathleen : So I thought, just keep moving forward. I was staying over at a friend’s house and I stayed overnight. Next morning I got up and I said, okay, what am I supposed to do here? And I got get yourself dressed and go back over to that department.
Jean: Wow.
Kathleen : I walked myself over there. I stood in the center of the room, and because they had all these, they were building a new theater. So I stood in the center of this room were all these teacher’s desks were. And I’m saying to myself, I’m not moving till I know what to do. And at that moment Hobgood comes out of his office and he sees me, and he says, you come over here. I said, okay. I marched myself over there thinking, Oh God. And he said, one of our graduate students decided not to return. We’re giving you his full scholarship and a monthly stipend.
Alison : That’s amazing. Yeah.
Kathleen : I mean, I’ve had moments like that all through my life, and they got me where I needed to go for the next step in my career.
Alison : Right.
Kathleen : You know, so even to when it was time to finish it, you know, as I got older and, uh, the jobs weren’t coming as quickly because I was getting older and, and, uh, they were moving on to other people and I thought, well, what are you going to do about this? Well, I sat and I thought about it, and I happened to go down to hear, uh, Michael Beckwith at Agape, which is a spiritual center here in Los Angeles. And my friend Cynthia James was singing there… And, um, I ran up to her and I said, how you doing? I said, tell me about this school, SMU, in Santa Monica. Uh, I mean, USM, University of Santa Monica. And she said it’ll be the best gift you can give to yourself. So I thought, like, an hour on it, and I got that hunch to apply. I was already a week late to enroll in the program for that year, but I called them. They said, get your transcripts in. We have a make up class this Thursday. It’s exactly what I did. I was working on another show at the time. I think it was Sunset Beach for Aaron Spelling, and, um, I was accepted in two days. I went down there and went back and got this other master’s degree in spiritual psychology, which was exactly the right thing for me to do at that point in my life. At that point, I think I was 50, 55 around there. And, uh, I thought I got to do this to make that transition. As I’m getting older, because the business isn’t kind to older women and as many as the breakthroughs as have been made for women over the past five years or so, as far as advancement in producing and directing and all of that.
Kathleen : Uh, at my time when I was doing this, there was a lot of help out there for women, and there wasn’t a lot of support, even from each other. Yeah. You know, so I felt as though, okay, I got to transition my life again, but this time I wanted to make it about a deepening in my own learning because I thought, I don’t want to go into the latter years of my life feeling any kind of disappointment or bitterness, or I haven’t cleaned my own house, you know? I don’t want those things lagging on because they can just eat me apart. I am just a highly sensitive person, uh, being trained as an actor, i’m emotional and I thought, you have got to have command of yourself better, in a better way and keep that. What we learn in spiritual circles, that witness that distance saves your life. You know that. We get it. I know, Allison, you’ve experienced the highs and lows, the ups and downs, the yes, the no’s. And many times there’s more nos than there are yes’, and I feel so, i have to teach myself to say yes to myself. And in doing that, uh, it’s still a learning process, but I said yes to learning in the consciousness of my spiritual growth. Always been my saving grace. No matter what show I was doing, you know.
Alison : wait. Are you saying that you’ve always felt this way all through?
Kathleen : Yeah.
Alison : Wow.
Kathleen : Since I was a kid, I always had some kind of calling from spirit to, I guess, the way I describe it, that keeps nudging me forward, you know? And sometimes, you know, I’m not reading it right. And I go, so where are you?
Alison : Yeah, yeah.
Kathleen : Hello? Do you hear me now?
Alison : Yeah.
Jean: Because how you addressed going to the university and not having, uh, the money and that’s— you were attuned to listening to to your inner, to that still small voice. And most of us have not been raised to do that.
Kathleen : Yes. I, I don’t think any of us are. Yeah. I’m sorry to make that blanket statement, but in reality, it’s a whole different learning line because I can see how we are all distracted by the world. Yeah. You know, I was recently at an airport, and I’m telling you to see the mass of humanity all, um, attracted by the glitters. Yeah. Well, let me look here and there and do this and do that and…. Oh, now I have to get on a plane. Now I have to do this. And I thought, what a microcosm this is.
Alison : Yeah, yeah.
Kathleen : To see, you know, how we are all caught up in that. Because the world being in the world demands it. You know, if I, I don’t know what you think about that, but I just feel we have to be disciplined within ourselves to say, wait a minute. Stop the world. I want to get off for a little while and see who I am again. And I hope people will take that chance to do that and respect it and know it’s okay, because the Universe has got our back. Yes, I really believe that.
Jean: And you have to trust that. Yeah, and really, really trust that and have, uh, and you do. And you did. And you do now, Kathleen. You know, your life is a beautiful reflection of your inner knowingness and your love and everything — because you you feel very grounded. You feel benevolent, you feel and you are wise, you know, and, um.
Kathleen : Thank you. Thank you. Well, I think I stay on the learning line. That’s the one thing I– it is about controlling the mind from being sucked in to fear thoughts from, uh, you know, when you’re in an atmosphere, as we are now as a nation and in a world where there’s a lot of fear out there, we see a lot of pictures of that fear. If you ever watch television or even see the movies because they keep demonstrating the fear. And I think to myself, well, where is the message of hope? So we got a slight one with the election of the new pope, who seems to be a person of grace and intelligence and really on the ground as far as the previous pope, uh, for being of service and being a consciousness of service. You know, just as the Dalai Lama and many other spiritual leaders. But I thought, okay, let’s keep this ray of hope that we have now to move forward in some way. And but that requires me to control my thoughts, to really whenever I hear, you know, frightening thoughts for myself, I go, particularly as I’m getting older. I find myself really attaching to a mantra. You know, I am in the center spirit. I’m living in grace. I’m creative, you know. Where do you want my creativity now? Universal force. I keep those mantras- Ram, RAM, RAM, RAM, going because it gets my mind off the fear thoughts.
Alison : Yeah.
Kathleen : Because in reality, the things I’ve observed, when am I really not taken care of? And I think that’s part of my role here now. Um, and this is a grace for all of us. I think as we get older. I may not be able to, you know, get on the stage and do performances and do all of that About anymore, but I sure can support the creative efforts of the people around me. I sure can, every single day, no matter what I’m doing, I allow myself to keep a consciousness and an energy field of love to every person I pass. Every person I interact with. And I have had to make a big change to realize that my way forward is not to be the one performing and letting that energy be where I teach through people for certain plays or roles that I’ve done. But it’s more of an inner knowing, an inner energy and let that energy do the work I’m supposed to just show up in kindness? Loving kindness as Ram Dass says. Just be in loving kindness. And that’s that’s a real lesson for each of us, don’t you feel?
Alison : Oh, yes.
Jean: Yes, Kathleen.
Alison : Oh my gosh. And it’s amazing to me to hear you and know your past and see that you did not get caught up in all the glamour, glitter, uh, competition, anger, fear of the profession that you were very successful in.
Kathleen : Well, when I was younger, I did– I was more fearful and well, I remember being at an audition for the equity lead back in New York City, and I was sitting in the waiting room, and there’s a girl sitting next to me, and, you know, you sit there with your picture and resume and there’s a girl sitting next to me, and she was looking like, Like this. And she started to lean in, and she then started to write on a piece of the back of her resume some of the things that I had on my resume.
Alison : Wow.
Kathleen : Isn’t that interesting. You know, we were like 27, 28. And at that time I had because I worked in a lot of repertory companies prior to that. So I had something on my resume, and I thought the problem with that is she’s going to go in there, and what if they say, oh, tell me about that play you did, and she never did it. And what a perfect example of all of us in the feminine, not knowing who we are and letting that fear control us and think I’m not enough. Well, who she was, who she was, who I am, who you each are is really enough from the beginning. But I didn’t know that. And maybe that was part of my learning. I had to keep on, I can do this role, i can prove it. I always prepared well, worked very hard, tried to make whatever I did good. Sometimes I failed, sometimes I made it, you know, um, and to live with those both sides of that edge of performance is a challenge. Yeah, but it teaches you toughness against your fears.
Alison : Yeah. Mhm.
Kathleen : You know what I’m saying.
Jean: Yeah. Yeah.
Kathleen : So I think this was the right profession for me, I’m glad I did it. Um even before I did this I went on line to look at my own website to see what are the things I’ve done?? I thought, oh my God, you really had a career.
Alison : Yeah.
Jean: It was wonderful reading about you, Kat. And I feel like I know you so well, and I was like, oh my goodness.
Alison : Yeah.
Jean: Um, while we’re, we’re talking about, you know, spirituality and everything. Can you share with our listeners, um, your meeting with Muktananda? Because I feel that that pearl of wisdom that he offers you, that he says to you is is so helpful.
Kathleen : Oh, thank you. Thank you for that. Yes. I, um, uh, was in New York City, and the way it started out was I was a rainy morning in New York City. I wanted to get a spiritual book. So I lived in the Upper West Side. I went down to, um, the village, and I thought, I really gotta find a store that’s going to have a good spiritual book, you know? And so I just started walking the streets down there, uh, 14th Street, I got off, I got up, walked a couple of blocks, turned, just turned right again my instinct. And there in front of me, about 100ft was a sign. Books. And it was in the basement of a brownstone. So I thought, oh, right up my alley. Got in there, walked inside, was looking around. And this guy with a big gray hair walked over to me and looked at me. And I said, he says, can I help you? And I said, yes, I’m looking for a good spiritual book. And so he says to me, hmm. And he looks at me and he looks at me and he looks at me, and I’m going getting a little uncomfortable, you know. So he says to me, I got just the book. So he, um, goes over there, stands, comes back with a book called, uh, The Miracle of Love. It was a book on Baba Neem Karoli, and I take it and go home. As I’m sitting in my bed at night getting ready, propped up, all ready to read my book… Um, and I’m reading the book, and I turn one particular page. Chapter nine. Saw this picture of Baba Neem Karoli – Ram Dass, teacher, and I got a lightning bolt that went from the top of my head down to the base of my spine and back up again, and I was gone. I was out of my body. Came back about 15 minutes later, looked at the time and it said 15 minutes had gone by and I was in a state of ecstasy. I went, oh, this is good. May I have the privilege of meeting an enlightened being this time on earth? This time around, because he already passed. Three days later, I’m being interviewed… Uh, I was on All My Children at the time, by Joan Goldstein. And I start to talk to her about this, and she says, oh my goodness, she says, Muktananda is in town. I said, who? And she said, Muktananda. Oh, she says, well, they have an ashram up on 86th Street. Guess where I was that night? I was over at 86th Street and they said, they’re having a weekend retreat. Guess where I was? I finished shooting on Thursday. Friday morning I’m up there and I’m standing on the Darshan line. Joan is guiding me and she’s talking to me– and a Darshan is when you go down in front of the guru and you bow out of respect and just say hello…That’s all it is. So I’m there. I’m on my knees. I take my bow and Joan says to me, I’m going to tell him you’re on television. And I said, oh, God, do not tell him that. That is nothing. I’m in front of the guru. What the hell are you doing? I don’t know what’s going on here. I’m singing mantras, I never heard anything, so I am on my way down… I hear her say this and I’m thinking, oh, God, I’m in such trouble. I come back up and he looks at me and he does this, points his finger at me and beckons me to come to him. So I on my knees, I scoot over and he takes my hand and he looks into my eyes and he gave me a great lesson. And it was this – don’t you understand, that if it’s not important to you, why would it be important to me? It sounds like a simple phrase, but the energy of that Truthful, authentic moment hit me right here. Knocked me back on my heels and I went, oh my God. I got one of the greatest lessons in false humility I could ever have gotten, because he’s teaching us everything you have and are is a gift from the spirit. Celebrate it.. let it be who you are, you know?
Kathleen : And so that was, I think, a road for me to follow as far as opening up, not out of arrogance, because I always believed whatever talents I have were a gift, were a gift. Even the shows that I didn’t do as well or their performances I didn’t like. They were all a gift to me in my learning, my growth and my learning how to be at one with spirit in my creativity, you know, to get out of the way. And I had several performances, particularly on the stage, in one on television, where I got out of my way and I felt it. And the interesting thing is, when I walked off the stage and finished the performance, other actors and people would come up to me and say, boy, your performance tonight was just extraordinary. And I said, I know I had nothing to do with it. hahah I got out of my way. I got out of my way and let that energy flow through. And I don’t think in our society we are patient with that, in giving each other that chance to have it. You know what it’s like, Allison, when you’re on a set and you you got to get the scene in, you know? So you got to hope you’re doing everything right. Whereas on the stage you have more leeway. You really do. And sometimes when you’re up and you’re speaking, I know the two of you have had that opportunity to speak in front of people, and there are times when you just feel the flow is working. And that’s always been the carrot at the end of the stick for me. Yeah. Having those experiences because I had the blessing of having them because I met spirit and said yes. Then opening up like that just allows this newness to come to me. And sometimes I catch it, sometimes I don’t. So I’m giving it again. You know, I find different ways to work it through.
Alison : That’s such a beautiful story. Because you’re right, it does sound really easy, right? But so many times that I think I diminish myself or things or I say, oh, you don’t want, you know, oh, it just was this or it just like I kind of… And I do that hand wave, you know. Yeah.
Jean: It’s like pushing, pushing the energy away of receiving something like.
Alison : oh, It’s not a big deal. Yeah, I think that’s such a great lesson. And you’re right. It’s not an arrogance.
Kathleen : No, it’s in humility of allowing.
Alison : Right.
Kathleen : Allowing that spirit to use you as a channel for whatever you’re going to do. And listen, there’s a lot of people out there…. And I remember when I started to talk about this, when I was on All My Children, and I was doing some interviews with some other actors from different shows, And this one actor really came after me. On air, you know. Well, aren’t you special getting all this? It’s a little much. I’m just doing my job. And I thought, that’s you. This is me, you know? And when I learned is I have to be discerning. I can speak to you, but recently, I have recognized that for all of us, we’re all being asked in this time of conflict to step forward. And don’t be afraid to speak of our divine feminine expression, which is what this is a part of. I feel you know that channel.
Alison : Yeah.
Kathleen : Giving and receiving.
Alison : What do you think? When do you feel right now in your life, your most honest, authentic self?
Kathleen : Well, I set an intention every day, my soul, to be authentically living in the energy of wisdom. You know, because I want to learn. I don’t want to leave this earth thinking, oh, God, I got to come back and do this again. No. Although next time I come back, I’d rather be an astrophysicist. Very creative. hahah
Kathleen : And so, um, because the study of the stars and the cosmos teach me about spirit, you know. So, my intention is to try and stay in that authentic soul every day. But I had to learn that it was okay for me to speak up about who I am. And I’m still learning that. And I’m glad. I’m glad because you want to be discerning, and I want to be discerning and express myself in an authentic way. But I never want to offend somebody, you know? You know, that’s not my role. But what I learned is the stronger I stand up in my truth and follow that truth wherever I am, that keeps me healthy and whole, you know? And because of that, I feel more support in my life. And I have garnered people around me looking at you two. Um, who support my exploration without judgment. But you give me so much love to keep going. That is important for me because I don’t feel I had a lot of that in my life. You know, that kind of outward support. And I just accepted it and muscled my way through. At my age right now, it’s not about muscling my way through life. It’s about inspiring my way through life. And that’s the way I want to live now.
Alison : That’s beautiful.
Jean: And you do.
Alison : You definitely do.
Kathleen : Thank you.
Jean: Yeah.
Alison : It’s not even about age… That’s a great thing to hear at any age. That to be an inspiration to someone as opposed to muscling through is such a beautiful way to look at life.
Kathleen : Oh, yes. But, you know, and we all did this, I think because we all it cost us, you know, I had that mindset that I had to muscle my way through or one, you could fail or, you could be decimated, or you could be on your knees. And I’ve been on my knees, but I got myself up, you know, through certain incidences in my life. Uh, but what always brought me through, and that’s why I had to have a switch in my thinking, what always brought me through was my inner communication with that place of authenticity within me, which is loving, you know? And then I had the opportunity to look back and say, wait a minute, look at all those times that were extraordinarily challenging. You did come through them. I was not to leave this Earth. So you’re here now. What is next that you can do to bring grace and ease and be of service in somebody’s life. But now it’s the heart energy that makes that happen. Not, oh, I’ll do that, you know, I’ll straighten you out.
Alison : Right.
Kathleen : oh my God. But you don’t, you know, you don’t do it out of arrogance. You’re doing it because you want to be of help, you know. And I’m looking at two beautiful souls right now who carry that with them all the time, as you do in your own ways. You do that. So that’s a grace.
Alison : I think I think the thing you taught me, Kat, um, was you can caretake other people, but not at your own expense.
Kathleen : Yes.
Jean: That’s so beautiful.
Alison : I think you have definitely taught me that to just love myself through caretaking and loving other people, I don’t know, go down to the bone looking out for others when you’re, like, crawling along the sidewalk, you know?
Kathleen : That’s right you’re you’re not helping anybody. And you’re also showing, you know, your daughters, sons, whatever, how to do that in a respectful way to yourself and still be of great help to them. Because I truly believe in all our teaching and I love to teach and do things like that. But I find that our greatest lessons is how we each behave. Yeah. No matter what situation we’re in. Even when I was doing more performing and I was working with a particularly challenging actor, I thought, take a breath…. this person is going through some stuff. Get your way through, and if it gets too out of hand, then I will just have a conversation with the director and say, I just want you to know what’s going on, and I’m doing my best to work with it. That’s all you can do. You know?
Jean: I think for me, Kat, that was one of the things that I’ve picked up from you is, is having a really great attitude. And I feel when you say to me, oh, Jeanie, we’re going to go have an adventure. Yeah. It’s already like you’ve set us up for success.
Alison : Yeah!
Jean: No matter what! you say that to me, and and I think to myself… That’s so great. And, um, I’m going to have an adventure today. Like, I love that because that kind of takes the burden off of life to coming from a –I have to get this done and get this done. I mean, there are many things we all have to get done, but if we have a really good attitude, I think that serves us. So I, I love that.
Kathleen : And you know, it. It brings out the best in the people that you meet. And I had that realization the other day going into a doctor’s office, and they got the parking attendant had said, um, uh, to me after I got out of the car and he said, so where are you going? The heart center? And I said, yes, I am, and I was feeling positive about it. He said, oh, I wish you well. And I thought, that’s where our angels show up during the day. People that you don’t know, he was in tune enough to say, where are you going, here.
Alison : Yeah.
Kathleen : And I told them authentically and he said, oh, well, I hope it all works out. I said, thank you. I know it will. And I went on, you know, and I just thought, it’s all around us. Our support is all around us. If we can look at it that way, you know, and not as you talked about, Alison, you know, being trapped into the burdens of and the distractions of life, of everybody pulling on you. You know what’s my center? And that’s why I think the practice of deep breathing is so important. When you’re in those moments of going, too many people get back to the breath, and as you get back to the breath, it gets you back to your center. I mean, you can look around and see where the graces are around you, even if it’s a dog jumping on your lap right at that moment, or you see a flower or me seeing hummingbirds. Whatever it is, you’re more attuned to where the support is all around us. And sometimes, and this is going to sound far out when I’m, you know, think I’m really lost somewhere. I look up and I see the trees either out the window or if I’m walking and all the branches are going almost like a wave.
Alison : Yeah.
Kathleen : And I go, look at that energy, honey, I’m walking down this street in goodness
Jean: Yeah, that is so great.
Alison : Kat, you’re great.
Jean: You’re so vivacious and beautiful.
Kathleen : Thank you. This is such a, um, a heart privilege to do this. Thank you. Thank you both.
Alison : Thank you so much.
Jean: Yeah, we are so grateful… Kathleen, to spend some time with you. And, um, we want to also know, what does inside wink mean to you?
Kathleen : Oh, means you and me, babe. It’s between us. I got the goods. You got the goods, and we’re sharing it.
Alison : You’re so sassy. You really are. Yeah. And can you tell us? I know the answer… but. Pie, cake or ice cream? Kat?
Kathleen : Oh, none of them are.
Alison : Let’s go take a look in your freezer. Yeah, right.
Kathleen : Oh, I’m not doing that. I’m being a good girl for a half second. Uh, it is ice cream!
Alison : What flavor, Kat?
Kathleen : Coffee ice cream.
Jean: And I don’t know if that’s an Irish thing.
Alison : I know, it’s so good though.
Jean: I know, like my mother. Yeah, my mother’s friend. You, uh, you’re all Irish. And that coffee ice cream.
Alison : It is so good, though. That Haagen-Dazs coffee ice cream.
Kathleen : And when they used to have coffee syrup.
Alison : Oh, yeah.
Kathleen : That’s the combination of those two. And I remember that…. My first experience with that, this is how much I remember. It was in high school when they used to have those soda fountains. Yes. You know, they were great. You go in and they make your coffee sundae or something and put coffee syrup in it. And I would go, ooh, isn’t that good? You know. My heart would be racing for the rest of the day…but…
Alison : you’d be flying.
Kathleen : I would be a nervous wreck, but fine.
Jean: Yeah. Those old fashioned sodas…
Alison : I used to love that.
Kathleen : Yes, weren’t they great!
Alison : We used to have Jans in the Bronx, and you and I talked about this. It was like. It was like a old timey soda ice cream sundae place. Yeah. Oh, man, that was fun. It was a big treat.
Kathleen : Yes. It was.
Jean: I think the ones that were like that was Howard Johnson’s…
Kathleen : Yes.
Alison : Or Friendly’s. Um… I love that… You’re making me hungry.
Jean: I know we should go get an ice cream soda.
Kathleen : I know, what’s your favorite? What are your favorite sodas? If you have ice cream, what do you have?
Alison : Oh.
Jean: I like pistachio.
Alison : Yeah. I used to be able to just eat hot fudge, you know, just eat the hot. I just love that consistency and the warmness and…
Jean: what ice cream do you like?
Alison : Um, pretty much any ice cream.
Jean: Okay.
Alison : Pretty much any ice cream. For me, it was that hot fudge sauce, man.
Jean: Okay, well, let’s all congregate at Baskins and Robbins.
Alison : That’s right.
Kathleen : And we will have our undays.
Jean: Yeah.
Alison : Thank you so much, Kat. This has been such a beautiful time. And it went by so fast.
Kathleen : Oh it did. Oh my goodness.
Jean: I know this conversation is going to bless many people.
Alison : Yeah.
Jean: Because it directs them back to the heart.
Kathleen : Oh, good, I hope so. Thank you so much for the graciousness of inviting me to do this. It’s just— my soul is smiling.
Alison : Us too… Thank you.
Kathleen : Good..
Alison : We love you, Kat. We’ll see you soon.
Jean: We love you.
Kathleen : Love you too. Bye bye.
Alison : Her voice just makes me calm.
Jean: Yeah, she her eyes too. She’s got beautiful eyes but her… Yes, her voice is very soothing.
Alison : And she just like whatever you want, Kat. Like you’re, like, hypnotized, you know?
Jean: That’s right. That’s right.
Alison : I have to say one thing. She comes to our house for Thanksgiving sometimes, and when she’s there, there’s a whole mix of people and ages. And the great thing about Kat is you can sit her next to anyone, and and she’s curious about them, interested in them, and brings out, like, laughter and great conversation. And that’s what I aspire to.
Jean: Well, you I mean, Alison, I think you do that. But Kathleen is definitely someone that has really, uh, evolved into an all around beautiful human being.
Alison : Yeah.
Kathleen : Yeah. So wherever she goes, she just brings Light. And I. And I think, like she said in the beginning of the interview, it we’re that’s what we’re all meant to do, is to communicate love on whatever platform, whether you’re an actor or whether you’re a teacher.
Alison : Or a dentist, a.
Jean: Dentist or an accountant. The the underlying essence is love.
Alison : That’s right. That’s all that this comes down to, I think. Yeah, right.
Jean: I agree,
Alison : I agree too and.
Jean: I agree three.
Alison : Okay. Who else is in this closet? Get out of here. It’s so crowded in here. Um, well, thank you so much. Have, have a lovely day.
Jean: That’s right.
Alison : And thank you, Kathleen Noone.
Jean: We love you so much.
Alison : Bye bye.